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TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: huviline (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 05.07.2009 15:10

Tere

On suur huvi minnna arhitekuuri õppima.Olen äsja lõpetanud ehituskooli viimistleja erialal. Kuid nyyd ei oska valida kas TTK või EKA. Oskab keegi öelda yltse kui suur on tung sellele erialale.Ning kui suur on lootust sisse saada kuna olen tulnud ehituskoolist.Kas mul on mingisugused eelised nende ees kes on otse gümnaasiumist tulnud.Ning kui väga loeb joonistamis oskus. Oskan joonistada küll kuid mitte nii väga hästi.Ilmselt saab ju joonistamist pideva harjutamise käigus arendada. Või kas on abiks sisseastumisel kunstialased teadmised mis on kõvasti paremad kui joonistamis oskus. Lõpetuseks veel et sissesaamis tingimused on EKA-s palju suuremad.Millise koolis paber siis töö turul rohkem väärt on ja rahvusvahelisel tasemel.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: noor vihane mees (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 05.07.2009 23:49

Paber ei loe eriti pärast kooli midagi, loeb see mida sa teha oskad ehk siis portfoolio. Ise läheksin EKAsse, TKTK tase paraku sinna kanti ei küündi (kindlasti saan nüüd vihastelt temti meestelt vastu hambaid), aga olgem ausad vähegi tegijamad temti mehed on kõik hiljem EKAst läbi käind. Joonistamist saab õppida, aga joonistada peab arhitekt oskama. Kunstialaseid teadmisi ei nõuta. Matemaatikat peab oskama ja ennast väljendada kirjalikult kah.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: Noor sõbralik (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 06.07.2009 11:00

ekasse saaksid minna alles järgmine aasta, sest selle aasta sisseastumiseksamid on juba käimas ja vestlused on lõppenud, niiet oled kergelt öeldes rongist maha jäänud. Ja ma usun, et ttk on see kool, kuhu poole sina võiksid piiludasmiling smiley

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: huviline (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 06.07.2009 12:19

Sellest olen täiesti teadlik ekas juba asi käib .Plaanid tehtud järgmiseks aastaks.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: noor vihane mees (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 06.07.2009 15:35

No siis lõhu aga joonistada ja õpi matemaatikat, soovitavalt mine ettevalmistuskursustele.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: R (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 06.07.2009 21:39

Kas mitte ekas ja tktk pole suht samad õppejõud?grinning smiley ise arvan ekast tulevad rohem sellised kunstniku hinged tktkst veidike konstruktiivsema mõttega arhitektid, eka annab magistri tktk rakendus kõrghariduse. aa kool ikka annab sellise baasi alla, inimeses ikka kõik kinni mis tast peale kooli saab

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: noor vihane mees (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 07.07.2009 07:46

"Kas mitte ekas ja tktk pole suht samad õppejõud?grinning smiley ise arvan ekast tulevad rohem sellised kunstniku hinged tktkst veidike konstruktiivsema mõttega arhitektid, eka annab magistri tktk rakendus kõrghariduse. aa kool ikka annab sellise baasi alla, inimeses ikka kõik kinni mis tast peale kooli saab"

Ei ole samad õppejõud. Ülejäänud osa su postist rajaneb küll väga pealiskaudsetel stereotüüpidel ja teema algatajale ilmselt olulist teavet ei anna.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: huviline (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 07.07.2009 12:09

Tänud kõigile vastajatele

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: jyri (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 09.07.2009 15:49

kas mitte tipis, vabandust TTÜs, ka nüüd arhitekti pabereid ei anta? kui ehituskool läbi ja asi enamvähem kontimööda oli, siis äkki hoopis see oleks õigem suund?

mingil määral on see, et EKAst tulevad kunstnikud ja TKTKst asjalikud töömesilased ju ka kohati õige, kuigi 90% oleneb ikka inimesest endast. eks see vastuolu jääb alati ja mõlemal poolel on näiteid nö käisest raputada.
mina, kui EKA lõpetanu, ütleksin muidugi nii, et EKA annab laiema baashariduse, mille pealt võid hiljem spetsialiseeruda, õppides midagi spetsiifilisemat juurde. TKTK annab rohkem kitsama baasi, millelt saab kohe nö tööle minna.
meie büroost on läbi käinud päris mitmed TKTK lõpetanud ja ma pean ütlema, et millegipärast juhtub nii, et kui mingi projekt või planeering kipub väljuma tavalistest raamidest, siis on nad teinekord päris hädas. siis on abiks see EKA laiem baasharidus küll, mida võibolla tavasituatsioonides ei oskagi nii hinnata.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: huviline (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 10.07.2009 01:53

Endal kipud ka mõtted sinna eka poole kuid lihtsalt kardan et ei saa sinna sisse .Ning kui sisse ei saa siis pean tktk-se üritama.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: noor vihane mees (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 10.07.2009 11:07

Mis sa tühjast ikka kardad, sul aasta aega vamistuda. Mine kindlasti EKA ettevalmistuskursustele ja joonista ise nii palju kui vähegi saad. Samuti õpi matemaatikat. Ma ei tea kuidas praegu, aga vanasti prooviti EKAsse ikka mitmeid kordi ja mõni praegune kõva tegija sai teisel, kolmandal korral sisse

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: huviline (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 13.07.2009 13:11

Otsustasin vahepeal ühe raamatu osta. Oskab keegi öelda on sellist ka eestist saada.Oleks igati abiks praegu saaks kätt harjutada.
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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: kkk (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 13.07.2009 16:58

No kui kunstiannet pole, kirjutamisannet ka pole, siis pole mõtet EKAga oma kallist aega raisata.Eestis on liiga palju arhitekte ja just nimelt liiga palju väga keskpäraseid arhitekte, kes nüüd püüavad kuidagi rahaliselt toime tulla trumbades üksteist üle odavamate hinnapakkumistega. Arhitektuuri TTKs küll pole mõtet õppida. Olen kunagi seal õppinud, seal õpetatakse välja lihtalt tublisid joonestajaid.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: jyri (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 14.07.2009 18:04

ära kuula virisejaid.
kui tunned, et tahad arhitektuuriga tegeleda, siis tegele. kasvõi keskpäraselt. peaasi, et endale meeldib. sa ei ela teistele, vaid ikka endale.

minu jaoks tundub see raamat veidi kummaline, aga miks ka mitte. kui tundub õige, telli ära, see pole kallis.
üldiselt soovitan mitte väga palju raamatutega tegeleda, vaid rohkem iseendaga. praegu on soojad ilmad, võta pakk paberit (kasvõi ajalehti), tool ja söetükk ja mine joonista vanalinna. kiiresti ja palju. väga palju. kui sada lehte valmis joonistatud, siis tunned juba ise ka, et mõni töö on justkui parem kui teine. ja siis näita kellelegi. sealt see asi algab.
peamine: ei tohi takerduda pisidetailide (pliiatsiga)nühkimisse, vaid suur plaan ja ruumitaju tuleb paika saada.
joonistamisoskus on 90% arendatav. ülejäänud on anne. aga puhas joonistamisanne kui selline on arhitektuuri puhul väheoluline.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: Elmo (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 15.07.2009 14:55

Lugupeetud kkk-l võib isegi osaliselt õigus olla(joonestajate koha pealt), aga lisaksin omaltpoolt ühe klišee: ükskõik kui esmaklassiline või siis ka teisejärguline haridustee ka ette poleks näidata, ei ole see veel siiski indiviidi edu garant.

TTK õppekava kindlasti ei ole sedavõrd suunav (loe: põhjalik) nii loomingulises ja teoreetilises plaanis kui seda EKA-s ning võib olla tõesti on tegu pigem nö. tööriistade käsitlema õpetamisega, aga deduktiivse loogika kasutamine siinkohal oleks liialt ennatlik.

Teoreetilised "valmis tõed" võrrelduna elementaarsete baastõdedega võivad olla esmapilgul praktilises plaanis kasumlikumad ja rakendatavamad, aga laiemas plaanis on tegu siiski lisamäärajatega, mis saavad olema raamistikuks ja lähtepunktiks, milles ning millest lähtuvalt ollakse tulevikus suutelised opereerima. Ehk mida väiksem loominguline ja teoreetiline surve, seda suurem paindlikus kuid tingimata ka sedavõrd intensiivsem individuaalne vastutus nii töös kui enesetäiendamises.

Praeguse seisuga, nii meil kui maailmas, hakkab arhitektuur muutuma suletud dogmade ja stampide süsteemiks ning mille inerts on eelenevaga korrelatsioonis. Käibel olevad arhetüübid on tekkinud valede eelduste pinnal ja nende kivistumine seab nendes kahtlemise küsimärgi alla. Kõiksugu uuendused ja muundused on pelgalt kosmeetilised ja ei paku uusi ja reaalseid väärtusi. On vaja täiesti uut lähenemist ja selleks peame pöörduda tagasi reaalsete, mittevirtuaalsete algete ning vajaduste juurde ja raputama maha anakronistlikud suundumused. Ja alles siis oleme kõrvalseisjatena võimelised objektiivselt otsustama, kas praegune (ka akadeemineline) rada on ja oli optimaalseim või ei.

Rahvusvahelises plaanis Eesti arhitektuur ja/või selle identiteet just esirinnas ei ole (ja milles oleks?) ja selmet keegi siin konnatiigis akadeemilises või muus plaanis ennast isandana püüab kehtestada, võiksime üheskoos tegeleda konstruktiivsemate teemade, arutelude ja probleemidega nagu innovatsioon, keskkonna eluterve mitmekesistamine ning üleüldine elukvaliteedi parandamine läbi meile käepäraste vahendite.

Mis puutub teema algset küsimust, siis kuhu iganes ka õppima suundumine ei saa olema edaspidises karjääris takistuseks, kui suudatakse eelarvamuste vabalt omandada sealt pakutavast maksimum ja sellest lähtuvalt iseseisvalt edasi areneda, sest akadeemiline haridus on vaid suunanäitaja.

Parimate soovidega,
üks TTK vilistlane

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: Filmimees (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 16.07.2009 12:17

Ka mind teeb murelikus taoline erinevate haridusasutuste vastandamine, inimeste klassifitseerimine, klisheede levitamine, hierarhiate loomine ...

... mulle meenus millegipärast Hollywoodi film "Alien vs. Predator". Ma filmi kahjuks (või õnneks?) ei ole näinud st. ei teagi kumb lõpuks võidab.

Aga huvilisele soovitaks hoopis vaadata filmi "Sügisball".

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: Emo (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 22.08.2009 19:43

Minuarust võiks rohkem olla teravate nurkadega maju, mille vastu oleks hõlbus end vigastada. Selles suhtes EKA tüübid muidugi jagavad biiti, mäetehnikumi omad paraku mitte.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: huviline (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 26.12.2009 00:35

Alustuseks häid pühi kõigile.

Teemast nüüd, olen nüüd vahepeal kõvast joonistamist harjutanud,ning enda arust olen kõvasti edasi arenenud.Kuna nädala pärast minek mereväkke , osakab keegi soovitada mõnda arhitektuuriga seonduvat raamatut kaasa võtta või ajakirja ? Kuna vaba aega saab olema õhtuti päris palju siis loodan seda sisukalt kasutada.

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Re: TTK vs EKA
Postitaja: m (IP Logitud)
Kuupäev: 28.12.2009 16:13

ei tea ju su lugemuse tausta, aga ehk võtad paki Majasid või Ehituskunste kaasa:
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[www.ehituskunst.ee]
ei kujuta ette, kui palju seal süveneda saab.
arvatavasti ajakiri on asjakohasem. kui kallis raamat vette kukub on kahju suurem ;-)

lõpetuseks ka üks tarkustera:
lugeda tuleb süstemaatiliselt. midagi, mis tundub esmapilgul igav, ei jäta vahele.

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